Comments on: Flickr trials and tribulations http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/ Computational aesthetics and programming for artists and designers. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:39:21 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: at dérive http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-21323 at dérive Wed, 13 Jun 2007 06:55:48 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-21323 [...] Sadly, Flickr policy dictates that non-photographic images are not the focus of the service, with some resulting weirdness and frustration. But that still hasn’t stopped artists like Joshua Davis, Golan Levin and Lia from publishing excellent documentation of their work that is far more comprehensive than their personal web sites could ever be. [...] [...] Sadly, Flickr policy dictates that non-photographic images are not the focus of the service, with some resulting weirdness and frustration. But that still hasn’t stopped artists like Joshua Davis, Golan Levin and Lia from publishing excellent documentation of their work that is far more comprehensive than their personal web sites could ever be. [...]

]]> By: marius watz http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-20159 marius watz Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:10:29 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-20159 Toxi: SafeSearch can be turned off by users who are logged in, but by default the RandBox images won't show up. I just tried it again with another Flickr account with consistent results. I don't understand the need to discriminate against screenshots or CGI, but even if I did I wonder why SafeSearch has been set up as such an obscure feature. The content type can only be set from inside Organize, which makes it unlikely people will bother unless their account is reviewed as "unsafe". My account was reviewed as safe, so now I feel a bit stupid for having set the content type correctly. I guess this is why you should never invest too much of your online life in any one service provider. Toxi: SafeSearch can be turned off by users who are logged in, but by default the RandBox images won’t show up. I just tried it again with another Flickr account with consistent results.

I don’t understand the need to discriminate against screenshots or CGI, but even if I did I wonder why SafeSearch has been set up as such an obscure feature. The content type can only be set from inside Organize, which makes it unlikely people will bother unless their account is reviewed as “unsafe”. My account was reviewed as safe, so now I feel a bit stupid for having set the content type correctly.

I guess this is why you should never invest too much of your online life in any one service provider.

]]> By: clickykbd http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-20133 clickykbd Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:25:15 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-20133 A little clarification... It used to be alot worse on flickr. They used to somewhat have a "policy" against screenshots/art and other non-photographic content. And violating it too much could get your whole account NIPSA'd. In a recent update however they moved away from the "flag this photo" to a more granular system where you can specify what type of content it is: adult/screen/illus. etc etc. You should do this as applicable, because the effect is that every user's account settings determine what they wish to see now. You can adjust your own with the <a href="http://flickr.com/account/prefs/safesearch/?from=privacy" rel="nofollow">SafeSearch Filters</a>. Ultimately these photos are not publicly searchable to non-flickr users, who continue to see the safest photo only content per their business model (a photo sharing service). But you can otherwise share them with the public provided direct links to you and your stream. As the previous poster (toxi) said, your illustrations show up just fine for me (logged in) because I've elected to see all content on flickr. A little clarification…

It used to be alot worse on flickr. They used to somewhat have a “policy” against screenshots/art and other non-photographic content. And violating it too much could get your whole account NIPSA’d. In a recent update however they moved away from the “flag this photo” to a more granular system where you can specify what type of content it is: adult/screen/illus. etc etc.

You should do this as applicable, because the effect is that every user’s account settings determine what they wish to see now. You can adjust your own with the SafeSearch Filters.

Ultimately these photos are not publicly searchable to non-flickr users, who continue to see the safest photo only content per their business model (a photo sharing service). But you can otherwise share them with the public provided direct links to you and your stream.

As the previous poster (toxi) said, your illustrations show up just fine for me (logged in) because I’ve elected to see all content on flickr.

]]> By: toxi http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-19899 toxi Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:36:43 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-19899 Hey Marius, am not sure what's different for me, but your images are the only ones which show up for the Randbox search example... Also, there was post on the flickr blog (http://blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2007/03/introducing_fil.html) back in March which suggested that NIPSA is history. If you still don't see any non-photo images in your search results you maybe might just have to edit your search preferences? http://flickr.com/account/prefs/safesearch/ Hth! L8rs.. Hey Marius, am not sure what’s different for me, but your images are the only ones which show up for the Randbox search example…

Also, there was post on the flickr blog (http://blog.flickr.com/flickrblog/2007/03/introducing_fil.html) back in March which suggested that NIPSA is history. If you still don’t see any non-photo images in your search results you maybe might just have to edit your search preferences? http://flickr.com/account/prefs/safesearch/

Hth! L8rs..

]]> By: Fergus Ray Murray http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-19770 Fergus Ray Murray Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:36:37 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-19770 Yeah, they've kind of messed it up again. In principle, they've actually <em>weakened</em> their stance against non-photographic images (it should be better that we can mark them as such rather than having our whole account declared NIPSA), but they've hidden the method for finding them so effectively that any gains are more than counteracted. I can sort of see how they want to be seen as basically a photo-sharing site, but it still seems self-defeating for them to ghettoise visual art to this extent... Yeah, they’ve kind of messed it up again. In principle, they’ve actually weakened their stance against non-photographic images (it should be better that we can mark them as such rather than having our whole account declared NIPSA), but they’ve hidden the method for finding them so effectively that any gains are more than counteracted. I can sort of see how they want to be seen as basically a photo-sharing site, but it still seems self-defeating for them to ghettoise visual art to this extent…

]]> By: marius watz http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-19751 marius watz Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:09:19 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-19751 Hi Drew, thanks for the comment. It's not the Google popularity contest that's worrying me, it's the fact that SafeSearch doesn't seem to make much sense except for the banning of X-rated content. Surely they don't really think that screenshots or CGI are that bad? <a href="http://cpluv.com/" rel="nofollow">ComputerLove</a> is an obvious alternative for designers, but not for visual artists. And I don't really feel like a deviant, so deviantart.com is out. Hi Drew, thanks for the comment. It’s not the Google popularity contest that’s worrying me, it’s the fact that SafeSearch doesn’t seem to make much sense except for the banning of X-rated content. Surely they don’t really think that screenshots or CGI are that bad?

ComputerLove is an obvious alternative for designers, but not for visual artists. And I don’t really feel like a deviant, so deviantart.com is out.

]]> By: Dr. Woohoo! http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/comment-page-1/#comment-19690 Dr. Woohoo! Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:01:40 +0000 http://workshop.evolutionzone.com/2007/06/04/flickr-trials-and-tribulations/#comment-19690 you're still #1 on google when searching for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=RandBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8" title="RandBox" rel="nofollow">RandBox</a>, but i still feel your pain. deviantart and cpluv.com are alternatives... but there's something so disarming and inviting about flickr. thanks for the post. woohoo! d. you’re still #1 on google when searching for RandBox, but i still feel your pain. deviantart and cpluv.com are alternatives… but there’s something so disarming and inviting about flickr. thanks for the post.

woohoo!
d.

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